2014-04-09 VHC MinutesMINUTES OF THE SPECIAL VERNON HOUSING COMMISSION
MEETING HELD WEDNESDAY APRIL 9, 2014, IN THE
COUNCIL CHAMBER OF THE CITY HALL LOCATED AT
4305 SANTA FE AVENUE, VERNON, CALIFORNIA
MEMBERS PRESENT: Michael Hughes, Michael McCormick, Henry
Haskell, Eric Gustafson, Hector Garcia, John
Kriste, and Melissa Ybarra
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 p.m. by Chairperson
Hughes. Vice Chairperson McCormick led the flag salute.
Chairperson Hughes confirmed that there are no changes to the
agenda.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Chairperson Hughes announced that this was the time allotted for
public comment and inquired whether anyone in the audience
wished to address the Commission.
Elba Romo, Pro Properties Owner, reported on Pro Properties
submittal last year when the Commission was first soliciting
proposals for a property management firm. Since then, Pro
Properties has been following and tracking the issues in regards
to the housing stock.
Pro Properties can offer an alternative, as it can provide
management and consulting services as needed. Romo reported on
her analysis of seven issues that have been observed and
proposed Pro Properties solutions. She thanked the Commission
for their consideration.
Resident Susie Ybarra reminded the Commission of their duties as
part of the reform efforts. As staff presents its proposals,
she is confident the Commission will ask the right questions.
Ybarra recalled that the maintenance component in the Solari
Enterprises Inc. (“Solari”) contract was not addressed. She
inquired as to who is responsible for maintenance. Ybarra
encouraged the Commission to consider the maintenance component
in its consideration as there are issues.
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Ybarra opined that the survey issued to the residents was
generic and does not provide an accurate picture of the
resident’s concerns.
As the Commission reviews the proposed items, she reminded the
Commission to continue moving forward and to not back-track by
bringing responsibilities back in-house.
MINUTES
1. Minutes of the Regular Vernon Housing Commission Meeting
held March 12, 2014, to be received and filed.
It was moved by Garcia and seconded by Gustafson to approve the
March 12, 2014, Minutes. Motion carried, 6-0-1, with McCormick
abstaining.
NEW BUSINESS
1. Adoption of Revised Lease-Up Procedures for New Tenants
for Units Located Within the City of Vernon and Separate
Lease-Up Procedures for New Tenants for Units Located
Outside the City of Vernon.
Recommendation:
(1) Find that adoption of the proposed procedures are
exempt under the California Environmental Quality Act
(“CEQA”) in accordance with Section 15061(b)(3), the
general rule that CEQA only applies to projects that
may have an effect on the environment; and
(2) Adopt revised Lease-Up Procedures for New Tenants for
Units Located Within the City of Vernon; and
(3) Adopt new Lease-Up Procedures for New Tenants for
Units Located Outside the City of Vernon; and
Legal Counsel Stuart Leviton reminded the Commission that the
item was previously introduced and postponed to this meeting to
allow for further review and revision by staff. Staff is
proposing two different procedures to differentiate between
units within Vernon and those located in Huntington Park.
Leviton noted that no substantial changes to the Vernon unit
procedures have been made; those made were to clarify that the
procedures apply to Vernon units only. The established
procedures have been working well, no further revisions are
being recommended.
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The proposed procedure for the Huntington Park units was
presented. Leviton reported that a “Guiding Principle” section
was added. Modifications to the advertisement/marketing
procedures were made for the purpose of expediting the leasing
process. Market rate and market conditions were applied.
Leviton explained that it is the right balance for the leasing
agent because it allows for flexibility, while still preserving
the reform efforts.
It was moved by Kriste and seconded by Ybarra to adopt the
revised lease-up procedures for new tenants for units located in
Vernon and separate lease-up procedures for new tenants for
units located outside the City. Motion carried, 7-0.
2. Recommendations Regarding Property Management of the City-
Owned Rental Housing Stock, including those related to the
Third Party Residential Property Management Services
Contract with Solari Enterprises, Inc.
Recommendation:
(1) Find that approval of the proposed actions are exempt
under the California Environmental Quality Act
(“CEQA”) in accordance with Section 15061(b)(3), the
general rule that CEQA only applies to projects that
may have an effect on the environment; and
(2) Direct the Commission Director to not renew or extend
the current contract with Solari Enterprises, Inc. and
instead take the actions outlined in recommendations 3
and 4 below; and
(3) Authorize the Commission Director to reassign the day-
to-day residential property management duties,
including general administrative functions, leasing
operations, rent collection, and repair/maintenance
services, to appropriate City staff. This will entail
proposed staffing changes outlined in the staff report
that are subject to City Administrator and/or City
Council approval and authorization, and/or meet and
confer requirements with labor representatives; and
(4) Authorize the Commission Director to negotiate a new
contract with Solari Enterprises, Inc. for consulting
and advisory services, on an as-needed, task-specific
or project-specific basis, for a term not to exceed
two years, at a cost not to exceed $10,000 per year.
If authorized, consistent with Vernon Municipal Code
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Section 2.126(c), staff intends to seek City Council
approval for said contract.
Legal Counsel Stuart Leviton reported on Staff’s
recommendations. Staff recognizes the value in having Solari
Enterprises Inc.’s (“Solari”) expertise and availability as a
neutral third party and therefore is proposing to negotiate a
new contract for consulting and advisory services, on an as-
needed basis.
Leviton explained that the City is in a different state than it
was prior to the reforms. Whereas before, there was a need for
a third party property manager (“third party”), the Commission
has since addressed many of the original concerns through the
approval of various procedures and the implementation of the
lottery system to fill vacant units.
Leviton reported on the results of the survey sent to the
residents regarding Solari’s performance. Of the 26 units, only
11 responded. Those that did respond had service complaints.
Additionally, staff has heard some informal complaints. Leviton
explained that part of the issue is tenant expectations. To
clarify, he advised that the current process is guided by
industry standards and best practices; historically, responses
to maintenance calls have been immediate, but best practice
dictates that a 24-hour response is appropriate. It will take
time to manage expectations regardless of who is performing the
duties.
Staff believes it can perform the duties as effectively and
efficiently as a third party. Leviton reported that City staff
is involved in all expenditure of funds coordinated through
Solari. Under staff’s aforementioned proposal to resume the
day-to-day management duties, the policies and procedures
established by the Commission will remain unchanged, and only a
change in the staffing is recommended. It was concluded that
the City could perform these functions more effectively and
efficiently in-house using best practices and implementing the
procedures established by the Commission without any potential
back-sliding as a result of the third party involvement with
these tasks.
Leviton explained that the Community Services and Water
Department would undertake the repairs and maintenance
component. The Department of Finance would conduct the day-to-
day management and lease-up procedures. Although additional
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City staff may be necessary, the cost is anticipated to be no
more than the current cost for a third party property management
firm.
Leviton explained that staff did not anticipate the authority
restrictions and inefficiencies experienced with Solari.
However, Solari does offer expertise that staff is proposing to
utilize as needed and when it is appropriate. By adjusting this
balance, it will provide for more efficient management of the
housing units without the concerns and challenges of the past.
Chairperson Hughes noted that there are concerns with the timely
response to service calls and inquired who the contact at the
City would be. In response, Finance Director William Fox
advised that for the administrative portion, there will be a
point of contact; emergency contact information will be provided
for afterhours. The important thing will be to provide service
in a timely manner. A letter to the residents will include all
the contact information; additionally, the information will be
available on the City’s website.
Leviton clarified that part-time personnel is proposed in order
to coordinate activities and be available to respond to the
residents. The contact will be available 24/7 for emergency
situations, but in managing expectations, a 24-hour response
time is best practice for non-emergencies.
Fox reported that a call log system will be implemented to track
all the incidents, including the nature of the call and
resolution. The information will be made available to the
Commission.
Commissioner Haskell inquired why this service could not be
provided by Solari. In response, Fox advised that there is no
reason why it could not; however, Solari has not implemented
this process. Fox reported on his experience in property
management. He believes that he could perform the tasks more
efficiently and control the costs. He noted that management
cannot be separated from the maintenance component as it creates
inefficiencies.
Leviton explained the restriction on providing third parties
spending authority. As a result, performance is affected as it
creates delays.
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Commissioner Ybarra questioned why there could not be a
separation of management from maintenance. She recalled the
amendment to the Solari agreement to address this specific
component.
In response, Leviton explained that Solari can provide the
different maintenance services, but ultimately the City’s
authorization is required. When outsourced by Solari, the
process can be further delayed. Leviton advised that the
Commission can deviate from staff’s proposal and try different
alternatives. For example, a fee schedule for various services
such as background check can be developed and contracted with
Solari.
Commission Director Mark Whitworth noted that Fox has experience
with property management; additionally, he has heard complaints
from residents who would much rather pay their bills and rent at
City Hall. Whitworth advised that he previously instructed
staff and legal counsel to find a potential solution for these
deficiencies.
Commissioner Gustafson sought data and information on the total
cost for Solari services. He explained his concern and desire
to understand the costs such as expenses to date, and forecasted
costs under the proposed. He requested a comparison of the two
in order to understand the fiscal impact. He does not want to
add costs to the City if it is not necessary.
Commissioner Haskell opined that it is more complex than costs.
For example, the Commission heard a resident’s concerns during
public comment. It is the appearance of the recommendation that
it is a step backwards. Appearance is everything. Haskell
advised that all concerns could be resolved with procedural
reorganization with Solari. To illustrate, he advised that the
Public Work’s Department could still continue to perform the
maintenance work; however, Solari can log the calls and pass on
the information. The report indicated that there was much
objection to Solari, but there is always a rough start when
implementing a new process. Staff and the Commission
acknowledged that the original Solari contract was not perfect
and that it would need to be revisited. He opined that the
recommendation is premature. Solari or any other third party
can easily pay for themselves. Haskell does not want to see the
core responsibilities of the process revert back to the City.
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Leviton reported that staff spent a substantial amount of time
discussing the issue of appearance. If the sole reason for a
third party is appearance, then that is not a sufficient reason,
as the authority over the housing units is not with the City but
with the Commission. Access to City housing, for example, is
controlled by the random lottery selection and market rental
rates have been established by the Commission.
Leviton reported on deficiencies, such as the need for City
staff to edit communications issued by Solari to the residents.
Although Solari has made progress, on the day-to-day tasks, the
value of the third party is not as significant as it once was.
If there are real issues, the Commission can address these and
ensure that back-sliding does not occur.
Commissioner Haskell reasoned that although the Commission has
the responsibility, it does not have the resources to oversee
the execution. The Commission has no basis to discover any
wrong doings. He would prefer to see a third party executing
policy and the City overseeing that it is done properly. He
argued that all the issues can be resolved through procedure.
Leviton advised that under a new contract Solari can still
perform the background and credit checks and lease-up agreements
if the Commission so desires.
Commissioner Haskell advised that he would prefer for Solari to
handle everything as they should improve with time.
Commissioner Garcia noted that third parties do not have
authority. Before Solari, everything was going through
Assistant to the City Administrator Kristen Enomoto, and it was
bottlenecking. Now, staff is proposing that it be managed by
the Department of Finance. Solari would still be providing
their expertise. He opined that the City could be more
effective and efficient in the process.
Vice Chairperson McCormick is in support of staff’s
recommendations. He opined that Fox has the expertise and
experience to manage the housing stock. He advised that the
experience with Solari has not been good. He recommends that
Solari be contracted to provide specific services such as
background checks and other various tasks.
Commissioner Ybarra inquired on the time Solari spends managing
lease-ups, rent and finding new tenants. Once all the units
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have been filled, she questioned whether a part-time employee,
working 20 hours a week, would be necessary. In response, Fox
reported that the time varies from month to month depending on
the issues. The Public Housing Property Coordinator would also
be required to perform light maintenance work. He argued that
the management and maintenance components cannot be separated;
the new hire would need to be able to assess a problem and
repair it or coordinate with someone that can.
Fox advised that the Commission has established the framework
through its adoption of policies and procedures. Now it needs
to be executed. He believes the City can do this in-house
quickly and efficiently. This will allow the City to see some
cost savings. Fox reported that he volunteered to take on the
responsibility because he believes he can make it better. He
encouraged the Commission to allow staff the opportunity and if
they are not happy with the results, changes can be made.
Commissioner Ybarra inquired on the proposed two (2) part-time
City positions. In response, Fox explained that the first is
the Public Housing Property Coordinator which will be under his
supervision in the Finance Department. The second will be in
the Community Services and Water Department to address some of
the housing maintenance needs.
In further response to Commissioner Ybarra, Director of
Community Services and Water Kevin Wilson advised that the
proposed part-time employee in his department will assist staff
in performing the maintenance work. The proposed part-time
Public Housing Property Coordinator will conduct the initial
evaluation and perform minor maintenance work.
Wilson recalled that in review of invoices for certain
maintenance services, he noted that City staff could perform the
service at a lower rate and with a quicker response. Because
the maintenance calls were first vetted through Solari, there
was a delay in service, as they first evaluated the problem,
obtained the bid, and then submitted it to the City for review
and approval.
In response to Commissioner Gustafson’s request for a total cost
comparison, Fox explained that it will be difficult to provide a
total cost comparison as some of the costs are being absorbed by
existing staff who will merely be taking on additional duties,
such as billing and rent collection. He noted that the
recommendation to hire part-time employees is a low-cost
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alternative. This will allow for a more competitive rate
against contractors if the service is conducted in-house. The
ultimate goal is to be responsive to the tenants. When delayed,
small issues can become big problems.
Commissioner Haskell questioned why concerns could not be
resolved by implementing procedures with Solari or another
third-party.
In response, Fox reported that the survey results indicate a
high level of dissatisfaction with Solari.
Chairperson Hughes emphasized that the concern is the appearance
of the proposed. Hughes reasoned that under the third party, if
there is an error, it is the third party’s competence that is
questioned. However, under the proposed in-house management, if
there is an issue, then someone could accuse the City of
favoritism or malicious intent.
Commissioner Gustafson agreed. No one is questioning the City’s
ability to perform the functions. It is the misperception that
could potentially be created that is concerning, as they are not
just tenants they are voters.
Leviton explained that Solari did not take any action without
the City’s approval. If there is an accountability issue, and
the City is performing the duties, there is no barrier; it is
known who is responsible. Leviton understands the Commission’s
concerns on appearance and perception, but reasoned that a third
party is not the most efficient solution. The Commission’s
concerns can be addressed.
A year ago, staff advocated for a third party because it was
thought to be effective and in agreement with the reforms. At
that time, the Commission was resistant to hiring a third party.
Since then, staff and the Commission have essentially changed
positions. Staff’s position has changed because the need for a
third party has changed.
Staff could continue to work with Solari on specific functions.
It would be appropriate to revisit the Solari agreement in June
with a more comprehensive plan.
Commissioner Gustafson advised that if Solari is the issue, then
the Commission could look at other third parties, and not just
rely on Solari.
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In response Leviton explained that it was understood that this
would be a transitional period. Solari is not the problem; they
are an appropriate vendor and do have expertise. Without the
need for a new request for proposals, staff is recommending to
continue contracting services with Solari, but as a consultant.
In response to Commissioner Ybarra’s inquiry on whether the
management and maintenance components can be separated, Leviton
explained that they could, but as Fox noted, it is inefficient.
The work was delegated to a third party and yet staff was still
very involved.
Commissioner Ybarra sought clarification on staff’s involvement.
To explain, Leviton reported that every communication issued by
Solari was reviewed by staff, and changes were made to the tone
and style. Vernon has a unique housing stock; it has residents
that require a more personal approach. The end product took a
fair amount of work. It is not Solari’s fault as they did not
know.
Since much of the initial work has been completed, Leviton
anticipates that other than the occasional background check,
there will not be much need for a third party.
Vice Chairperson McCormick reasoned that a third party would not
prevent a disgruntled tenant from going to the media and
accusing the City of wrong doing.
Leviton explained that it is not an issue of whether Solari did
a bad job; it is an issue of managing expectations and
sensitivity. It’s about the relationship.
Commissioner Gustafson opined that a solution will not be
reached this day, there needs to be a solution that all can
agree on.
Commissioner Haskell inquired whether Solari representatives
wished to speak on the matter.
Leviton advised that staff did meet with Solari; they are in
agreement with staff’s proposals. The new consulting and
advisory contract was also discussed. He recommended that the
new Solari agreement be proposed at the June 11, 2014, meeting,
in order to allow time to explore costs and other items.
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Solari representative Diane Wehmeyer reported that Giana Solari
did meet with the City; however, she was not given authority to
speak on the issues.
Commissioner Garcia reasoned that although the City contracted
with Solari, the responsibility was still with the City. Fox’s
proposed reporting procedures addresses the accountability and
appearance concerns.
Commissioner Gustafson clarified that the concern over
appearance was the issue of misperception.
In response, Fox explained that Vernon is not unlike other
Housing Authorities in other jurisdictions which are managed by
the city. The difference is that Vernon is a small city.
Regardless of the process, the City is still accountable for the
results; additionally, as part of the annual financial audit,
the City’s financial auditors would review information.
To address the appearance concern, Leviton suggested a “hot
line,” where issues that have been inappropriately handled can
be reported.
Commissioner Haskell advised that there would be a lack of
oversight, and he is not fond of the idea of the City reporting
on itself.
In response, Leviton explained that City staff reports on itself
all the time. Additionally, Solari is not reporting on City
staff. The Commission relies on staff to do their job.
Residents can come to the Commission if they feel that they are
being treated unfairly.
Fox further reported on the hot line suggestion and advised that
this was recommended during the financial audit in order to
increase accountability.
Wehmeyer reported that she has been one of the main contacts
during the transition. Solari manages thousands of units;
however, its approach is different than that of the City’s. The
City has rewritten Solari communications to better suit its
residents.
In response to Commissioner Garcia, Wehmeyer reported that all
repairs have to be approved by the City. She is not aware of
any management issues. In response to Vice Chairperson
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McCormick, Wehmeyer advised that to her knowledge, issues at the
apartment units were addressed.
Vice Chairperson McCormick motioned for the approval of staff’s
recommendation with a new Solari agreement to be considered in
June incorporating the Commissions’ comments/concerns. It was
seconded by Kriste.
In response to Vice Chairperson McCormick’s inquiry, Leviton
clarified that an extension to the current agreement is not
being recommended. Staff would proceed as outlined in the
recommendations and propose a new Solari agreement in June.
Discussions with Solari need to occur to develop a fee schedule
and establish the consulting services. If staff encounters any
concerns, a Special meeting can be called.
The Commission voted to approve staff’s recommendations, and to
bring back the new Solari Enterprise Inc. agreement at the next
Commission meeting for consideration, incorporating the concerns
expressed by the Commission. Motion carried, 7-0.
Commissioner Garcia inquired whether a subcommittee would assist
in the process. In response Leviton, suggested allowing an
opportunity for staff to prepare the proposal first. If issues
are encountered, staff could advise the Chairperson and a
subcommittee could be appointed at that time.
ORAL REPORTS & COMMENTS FROM STAFF AND COMMISSION MEMBERS
1. Brief reports, announcements, or directives to staff from
the Commissioners and Commission Officers.
Chairperson Hughes recalled that during the last meeting, the
Commission discussed the budget and potential capital
expenditures. Nine units that are in need of remodeling were
identified. He requested a capital improvement budget on the
remodeling costs to address said units.
In response, Assistant to City Administrator Kristen Enomoto
reported that this is one of the deliverables in the current
Solari agreement; a five-year capital improvement plan is to be
provided. The commission can expect the report in June.
Finance Director William Fox reported on his intent to conduct
an assessment and provide a timeline for repairs using reserve
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funds. As part of the City’s overall budget process, a 5-year
capital improvement plan is being developed.
Commission Director Mark Whitworth advised that the level of
standards needs to be established.
Director of Community Services and Water Kevin Wilson further
added that he intends to maintain the same level of standards as
with previous remodels. It is estimated that the cost for
remodeling is approximately $100,000 for each unit. Staff can
provide the list of improvements, and scope of work at the next
meeting. Wilson noted that the displacement of the tenants
will need to be considered as temporary housing would need to be
provided.
SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT
Chairperson Hughes announced that this was the time allotted for
public comment and inquired whether anyone in the audience
wished to address the Commission.
Resident William Davis reported on his experience with Solari,
noting one incident where one issue was never addressed, and
another call where the City ended up performing the services
instead. He advised that Solari failed to return calls or
follow up on his issues.
Elba Romo, Pro Properties Owner, commented on the
recommendations and discussion. Main discussion points revolved
around the separation of management and maintenance; as
previously explained Pro Properties specializes in niche
markets. Services can be customized to administer the
management of the units. Romo agrees that 24-hour response to
service calls is best practice. Pro Properties is locally
located and is attuned to the community.
Romo cautioned when hiring the part-time Public Housing Property
Coordinator, as it requires a level of expertise.
Resident Susie Ybarra reiterated her concerns on transparency.
She cautioned against the practice of multiple titles for City
employees as the Finance Director will now be undertaking
housing elements.
Ybarra stated that if the Solari Enterprises Inc. (“Solari”)
agreement is not renewed, then the City won. She argued that
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the issues presented can be resolved through procedure and
process. Before Solari, rent payments for certain units were
behind approximately 6 months. Additionally, the Director of
Community Services and Water stated that the turn-over repairs
on housing units were last on the department’s priority list.
The process with Solari can be improved.
The approved recommendation does not change the process, just
the people. She questioned why the City did not try working
with Solari on the issues, and opined that not enough effort was
made. A major concern for the community is that the City
adheres to the reforms.
With no further business, at 8:03 p.m., it was moved by
McCormick and seconded by Haskell to adjourn the meeting.
Motion carried, 7-0.
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Michael Hughes
Chairperson
ATTEST:
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Ana Barcia
Deputy Secretary