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19841113 Regular City Council Meeting - Minutes II- I I .~ .. " " ,1 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, HELD NOVEMBER 13, 1984 AT 4:45 P.M., IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER OF THE CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 4305 SANTA FE AVENUE, VERNON, CALIFORNIA MEMBERS PRESENT: Davis, Malburg, McCormick, Gonzales, Ybarra ABSENT: None The meeting was called to order by Mayor Malburg. The Mayor indicated that the City Council was convening today to consider Container Corporation's appeal of the August 22, 1984 denial of their request for an electric transmission line encroachment license. Carrol S. Blodgett, a duly appointed Certified Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public, in the State of California, of the firm of L. R. Linn & Associates, was present and transcribed the proceedings before the City Council. A copy of the transcript is attached hereto and incorpo- rated herein by this reference as though fully set forth at length. At the conclusion of the appeal proceedings, the Mayor declared a five minute recess. At this time, the City Council reconvened in regular session all members present before the recess, again being present. At 5:50 p.m., it was moved by Ybarra, seconded by 11cCormick, that the City Council go into executive session under Attorney/Client privilege. Motion carried. All persons with the exception of the City Administrator/ City Clerk and the City Attorney were excluded from the execu- tive session. Mayor Malburg declared all communication to and from the executive session deemed private and confidential. At 6:08 p.m., It was moved by Ybarra, seconded by McCormick, that the City Council go out of executive session and resume regular session. Motion carried. There being no further business to come before the City Council, it was moved by Davis, seconded by Gonzales, that the meeting be adjourned. ATTEST: 8~4~ t IJ'. ftI,r, 11 ',;7 t; 'tj "'..1 BRUCE V. MALKENHORST, City Administrator/ City Clerk BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ) ) OF THE CITY OF VERNON, CALIFORNIA) ) ) ) ) In tn~ matter of Appeal of the ) Denial\\of the Request for an ) Electric Transmission Encroachment ~. LicensebT the Container Corporation) of America, Inc. ) ) City Council Chambers 4305 Santa Fe Avenue Vernon, California Tuesday, November 13 J 1984 L. R. LINN & ASSOCI..~TES Cer~ified Shorthand Reporte::-s Suite iiO ONE BUNKER HILL BUILDING 601 West Fifth Street Los Angeles, California 9001i eZ1S) 6Z8.i8i4 . 1 I 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 1a 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 "... wI 28 APPEARANCES: CITY COUNCIL: For the Appellant Container Corpor- ation of.America, Inc. : Also Present: Reported by: Leonis Malburg, Mayor Thomas Ybarra, Mayor Pro Tern William Davis, C~uncilman William McCormick, Councilman Hilario Gonzales, Councilman David B. Brearley, City Attorney Valley Professional Building Suite 203 11350 East Valley Boulevard El Monte, California 91731 GIBSON, DUNN & CRUTCHER By Wayne W. Smith 333 South Grand Avenue Los Angeles, California 90071 De 1 C. B ro 0 ks Mary Thorke1son Carroll S. Blodgett, CSR 619 3, 1 2 VERNON, CALIFORNIA, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 1984 5:00 P.M. 3 4 MAYOR MALBURG: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. At this time I will call to order the City Council of the City of Vernon. We are here today to consider Container Corporation's appeal of the August 22, 1984 denial of their request for an electric transmission line encroachment license. I) 6 '7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 " I . 1 2 3 4 ;) 6 7 8 t) 10 11 12 13 14 IS 16 17 18 19 ,20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 4' MR. SMITH: Yes, I will, Mr. Mayor. I am Wayne W. Smith. I am an attorney that represents Container Corporation. I ha-ve with me tonight Mr. Del Brooks, who will be presenting the basic part of our presenta-tion. I am here because on the appeal, as we understa-nd the ordinance, we are required to address certain standa-rds, legal standards, that we need to meet on the appeal. Therefore, Mr. Brooks will summarize the project and what we view as being the facts applicable to both the transmission line that has been requested and where we believe the facts exist to meet the legal standards in the ordinance, and then I will briefly summarize our position as to .how we believe we 'have met those legal standards. We will,try not to duplicate what 1S in the presentation. We did submit a substantial packet of material in support of this appeal, and in recognition that you all areveryhusyand that you have that written material, We will try'to stay away from duplication, except where those underlying facts are necessary to our arguments. MAYOR MALBURG: Fine. Before we continue, at this time I would like to dismiss the chief officers, the Chi~f of the Fire Department and Chief of the Police Department. You are excused. Thank you very much. Oh~ r didn't see you over there. You are excused, too. Fine, we can proceed now. Sir, would you please give us your name? MR. DEL BROOKS: Yes. My name is Del Brooks of Container Corporation of America. I am project manager ,"''''''''.'.''~''''''''- s, 1 for the cogeneration project here in Vernon. 2 Briefly, Container Corporation of Am~rica plans 8 to construct, install and operat~ a cogeneration facility 4 to generate electric power and steam for our paper mill S at 2000 57th Street. This facility would generate 6 approximately or up to, I should say, 40 megawatts of electric power. The power would be sold to Southern 7 8 California Edison as is appropriate under FERC rules for cogeneration facilities. The project is necessary to maintain the viability and ~ompetitive position of the mill. All of 9 10 11 12 our competitors in this area are. either cogenerating or 13 have cogeneration projects underway at various stages of completion. 14 15 Container Corporation of America has been in the Vernon business community since 19.46 and plans to 16 17 continue operations In Vernon as long as we can maintain 18 the economic viability of the mill. We have asked for 19 an encroachment license in order to construct a direct 20 line between our mill property going west on 57th Street and then south on Alameda exiting the city boundaries which would eventually connect to the Southern California Edison. This line would be built to utility standards. It would be constructed by Southern California Edison, the same people that do the construction and operation and maintenance of the Vernon city system. It will travel a fairly short distance inside the Vernon boundaries, since 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 it is roughly 900 feet from our mill property to the city 1 boundary along Alameda Street. "6 2 There are other lines present In the ,area along 3 that general route and therefore it poses no more impact 4 to the environment or to any more risks to tbe city than ;) currently exist. The streets or the construction of the 6 lines would not pose any substantial problerns,traffic 7 problems or any other type Qf difficulties. It IS 8 I 9 I 10 i i 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 .,.. .., 28 common utility construction and the line would be for export of power only. That is the way tbe cogeneration facility is designed. The only way that we would use this line would be to export power out and not to bring po.wer into the City of Vernon. The direct line avoids problems, of metering complications which would be encountered if power .was transmitted through the city system. It avoids any conflicts or disruptions that a meter might cause on the city system and is in general a much simpler approach. We have been in negotiations with the City Staff for approximately two Years now concerning a.wheeling agreement. The.se negotiations have not proved fruitful at this point, in fact, we were just negotiating today. The latest proposal by the City Staff would require Container Corporation of America to pay approximately $800,000 per year in wheeling charges. This is opposed to direct line costs Qf approximately $300,000 for the one-time cost. We have also proposed that the city could construct the line and operate it as a special facility for us so that there would not be any non-CIty-owned lines within the 8 1 outside the City. 2 On the first point, intrusion into the Vernon 3 serVice area, we believe that is factually incorrect. 4 This direct line would cause no intrusion whatsoever into 5 the Vernon service area, only export. pOWer out of the 6 service area, would not infringe or intrude in any fashion 7 into the service that is provided by the City of Vernon 8 within its service area. We have discussed this with 9 the PUC~ and they have confirmed our interpretation as 10 11 correct. We had hoped to be able to present tonight an opinion letter from them on that issue, but were unable because of logistics to get it to us in time for the meeting tonight. They have told us that it is 'correct that this direct line simply exporting power outside of the City would not infringe on Vernon's service area and that should not provide any basis for the denial of the direct line application~ Secondly, 1 am uncertain as to the basis for the denial based on a "longstanding policy." We are unable to find any such policy stated anywhere in any of the City of Vernon's written materials to which we have been able to obtain access. We believe that the law that is applicable to an administrative body, which l,understand the City Administrator to have been acting in in denying the application, that an administrative body cannot exercise unfettered discretion in dealing with an applicatio for a permit, and I believe that is what we are,faced with if our permit is to be denied on the basis of an asserted 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 1 2 :5 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 ,..~,.,.""-,""...,..~--.".,,=..._,,,"....____-__.,., "'..",<.,,_.,..';.-.....,.,..,...,_,"...........c<_, .7 city boundaries on the city'system. I think this concludes our basic description of the project and the basic facts for both the line and the project. Mr.. Smi th.. MR. SMITH: I think as you see you will be pleasantly surprised when I conclude my presentation that the time we are going to consume is going to be much shorter than may have been earlier anticipated, but the package of materials that we submitted was so voluminous .and tve are eliminating that and trying to avoid duplication. I will briefly discuss why We be.lieve that we have met the three standards ifrthe ordinance, and why we believe that the two bases which were stated in the letter frQm the City indicating~hy the application was being denied, why those two bases are improper and not a valid means or not' valid bases, rather, for denYing the application. First, the two items that are mentioned in the letter from the City -~ actually there is a letter, I guess, from, I forget whose letter carne first, Mr. Vaits or Mr. Malk.enhorst's, but one of the letters states that there are two bases upon which the City Staff recommends against granting the application and those are incorporated into the denial. Those two bases are intrusion into Vernon service area and what is stated to be a longstanding policy of the City against allowing such a line to connect '9 1 2 :3 4 "langstanding palicy," which a citizen who. appraaches it filing an applicatian is unable to. determine and which apparently cauld be brought aut ar nat braught o.utas it wauld suit the purpose af the Administratar. I think the palicy that guides the granting aJ permits and particularly the denial af permits must be mare <;:learly articulated and available to. the public. So I don't believe that palicy, Whatever it might be, can farm a basis for denial af the applicatian. Naw turning to. the three paints that are mentiane In the City's ardinance Sectian 22.88 far this appeal. We believe that our applicatian and Mr. Braaks' presentatian mare than amply demanstrates CantainerCarparatian will be substantially damaged by the refusal to. grant the permit. If this cageneratian facility cannatbe campleted and the pawer saId toSauthern Califarnia Edison, it will be necessary far Cantainer Carparatian to. clase its facility and to. relacate this'paper pulp aperatian to. same ather locale where it is able to. aperate with a cogeneratian facility. i) 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 As Mr. Braaks pointed aut, all af the campetitars are either using cageneratian ar have annaunced plans to. build cageneratian facilities. These paper recycliIlg ar paper pulp operatiansare very high energy users and it IS difficult to. be campetitive and indeed impossible to. be campetitive withaut meeting the competitian's use af cagenera t ian fac i 1 it ies. The second criteria that there be no. ather 27 28 ,'.,......~--'''"'-..............~-----.,.".,.........."~''''-'''',,.~"....,'''.......~,''-."'''.........^'>,...'-.".--.""'------~ ,10 1 2 3 reasonable method of obtaining the desiredresUlt~ We believe that an alternative of a one~time cost o~ $300,000 to establish a direct line of a couple city blocks cannot be said to be a reasonable alternative to a whe.eling agreement With a charge of $800,000 a year, particularly when that is coupled with a gO-day termination provision, which means that they could end up with their multimillion dollar facility and no ability to sell the power at all. We believe that the options that have been presented by the City create an environment of economic duress on Container Corporation. The City is ina position of having the power of a monopolist in that it has control over the only physical facilities that exist in the city today for the transmission from this cogeneration facility to a customer. Coupled with that, the City of Vernon possesses legislative and administrative power to grant or deny permits, so it controls every possible facility or means by which CohtainerCorporationcan manager to sell this electricity to a consumer or to a customer. We beLieve that itis an improper exercise o~ that power for the City to demand fees in the range of $800,000 for a wheeling agreement, particularly where there is this easy alternative of a direct line running a very short distance directly out of the city. We believe that that argument also dovetails into the last point ln that the granting of the permit or license will not be materially detrimental to the public interest, safety, health, welfare or injurious to other 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 1 ,.... I I 2 'J oj 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 11 property. We believe it IS self-apparent that the short distance of this line through heavy industrial uses in an area where there already exists other power lines, power facilities, is not going to create any additional impact whatsoever, and that there will be absolutely no detrimental impact to the City. Indeed, the only detrimental impact we see that could occur to the City, and we are very desperately trying to avoid, is the impact of coming to an impasse where this plant cannot be kept open because of the inability to build the cogeneration facility and transmit the power to the Southern California Edison for sale, which would leave the City in the position of losing a facility that has been here for almost 40 years and which employs" as I understand, about 160 people, and we believe that would be a great loss to the City, to the public, and certainly a great loss to my client Contain~r Corporation. We are hopeful that the Council will see that we have indeed met the standards on this appeal and will authorize the issuance of this direct line license for the erection of this line for a very short distance so that this power, when the cogeneration facility is completed. can be transmitted out of the City of Vernon and sold to a customer of Container Corporation. Unless there are any questions from the Council, that completes our presentation. MAYOR MALBURG: Any questions from the Council? (No reply.) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 j I 8 9 10 11 12 13 12 MR. SMITH: Thank you, SIr. MAYOR MALBURG: Mr. Brearley. MR. BREARLEY: Your Honor, I think that the procedures as I see it, in that the Staff has indicated its unwillingness to recommend to the Council that the encroach- mentlicensebe granted for the purpose stated, th~ ordinance provides alternative methods of obtaining a license) namely, appeal of that Staff decision to the Counc i 1. Container Corporation's appeal can be made before the Council. We have now received from Container Corporation their written exhibits and the legal arguments and the 14 management arguments made by Container. I would recommend 24 25 26 ?- .' 28 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 28 that you take all of this under advisement and that YOLl instruct the Staff to do several things. One, I think it is necessary tq determine whether an ErR review is necessary, because granting by this Council of an encroachment license is a discretionary act to the extent that it has environmental impacts leading to the need to be considered, I think, which the Community Service Department should review and determine their position on whether there is an EIR problem which requires a review of that kind, or whether a negative declaration should be filed prior to the Council's determination. The second thing I think that should OCCUr IS that you shOUld instruct me and other conSUlting attorneys for the City to give you a written opinion adVising you L.", i"\, i....;'-lij'" tit A!;:)~Q;""':,i~; i"i) 13 1 of what discretion you have In this matter. Mr. Smith '2 has made his legal argument giving you his legal opinion 3 concerning what he thinks the status of the issue is. I 4 think before you make a decis ion that you should request 5 a written opinion from myself or from a consulting attorney 6 for the C i t Y . 7 The third thing I think you should do is, after 8 the legal opinion is wri t'ten and received, for staff to 9 review and determine whether they wish to submit any 10 documents to the Council for your consideration In light of what has been submitted to you at this time. I would 11 12 suggest that if the Staff wishes to submit additional 13 documentation that it be Sent to Container, there be set 14 a time to allow them to respond. I think if you will follow Hi that procedure, at least you will place this matter into a position where a decision can be made in the future. 16 17 I think at this time it would be difficult to make a decisio 18 without, number one, clearing away the EIR problem, if 19 there are any, number two, having some advice .as to what 20 discretion you have in this matter. 21 MAYOR MALBURG: Fine. Are there any further questions 22 from the CouncLl? 23 Fine. We will start, I guess, with the first item which would be the determination on the EIR, whether 24 25 it is necessary or not; is that correct? 26 MR. BREARLEY: Yes. I think you ought to refer that ?~ ..d to the Community Services Department so they can do an evaluation as to whether or not a report is necessary or 28 \l; A~;;;;W....;p. i.;;,~ 1 negative declaration should be. filed. I think you have 2 to do some form of EIR review. 3 4 ;) 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Ii 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 14 r-. 1 2 3 4 u 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ~ 15 should take what occurred today under advisement, and advise Container when these other matters will be presented to Council and set that time. MAYOR MALBURG: Fine. COUNCILMAN GONZALES: So move. COUNCILMAN DAVIS: Seconded. MAYOR MALBURG: Moved by Gonzales, seconded by Davis. That will be t'he order, if there is no objection. That will be the order. We are closed. MR. BREARLEY: Before you close the meeting, I have another issue to put before you on other ligitation. MAYOR MALBURG: MR. BREARLEY: Fine. Do you want to take a five-minute 14 recess? 15 16 take five minutes? MAYOR MALBURG: Fine. Would the Council like to 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 COUNCILMAN GONZALES: Yes. MAYOR MALBURG: That will be the order. We will recess for five minutes. * * * * .. C n R T r F r CAT E 16 L.. ,... '-iNN 4i A.SSQ(;tA'fts .. 1 2 3 s 6 I hereby certify that r am a duly ,appointed Certifi<:d 7 Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public: in the State of 8 California. !) r' further certify that the foregoing is a true and- 10 correct transcript of the.,proceedings had in the above.. 11 entitled ~atter on the~ate specified therein~ and %ha% 12 said t.ranscript is a. true and correct transcription of my 13 stenographic notes. 14 Dated. at Los Angeles, California, this, NOVEMBER , '19 84 1).t ~ day of IS 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2:i 2B 21 28